The following color chart was developed from data collected by D. Hoffman,
 J. Wintemberg,     J. W. Maxwell, C. Brommer, J. C. Thode, R.A LeMassena
 and me in response to many requests. The colors are in part from records,
 surviving cars and in part from an analysis of the shades of gray on
 prints from the old blue-sensitive glass plates.
 These plates were color blind and equivalent to modern pan film with a
 blue filter. Red and green appear dark gray, blue was light gray.
 White is lightest of all, then gold and yellow.
 The shades of gray depended on how much white was mixed with the black,
 red and green on how gloosy the finish was.
        Mixing formulas are as follows :

        Russia Iron  was the term used for a pickled sheet
 iron made rustproof by a mixture of metal oxides formed in the
 surface of the metal, analogeous to gun bluing. Many shades existed,
 depending on the formula. It ought to be a light bluish metallic gray,
 my formula is 1 cc of Floquil Gunmetal, 2 cc of white and a drop
 of blue or jade green.
IMPORTANT NOTE about colors and Russia Iron color

(from Ian Barnett - I have used a modern car metallic color for this - don't know the make - just look around the store & find one you like ! ) DSP&P Freight Car Red : Floquil Tuscan Red DSP&P Red Oxide : Floquil Tuscan Red DSP&P Straw Yellow : 4 parts Floquil Mud / 1 part white D&RG/DSP&P Indian Red : Floquil Caboose Red D&RG Princess Mineral Brown :2 parts Floquil Boxcar Red, 1 part Roof Brown D&RG Tuscan Red :2 parts Floquil Tuscan Red, 1 part Caboose Red DENVER, SOUTH PARK & PACIFIC 2-6-6T Breckenridge as delivered, perhaps others as well Chocolate Brown : Cab, tender tank, boiler, underframe and cylinders. Red : Tender collar, headlight and bracket, driver centers & domes Mahogany : Pilot spokes Black : Stack & smoke box Gold : Lettering & trim Polished brass : Handrails, piping, boiler bands, dome tops 2-6-6T and 2-8-6T Mason Bogies Black : All except as below. Red : Tender collar, driver centers, headlight and bracket, domes Russia Iron : Boiler jacket Mahogony : Entire cab on some engines, pilot spokes, cab doors & window frames. Gold : Lettering & trim Polished brass : Handrails, piping, boiler bands. All Mason Bogies after October 1885 renumbering Black : All except as below. Graphite : Smoke box & stack up to flare Russia Iron : Boiler jacket Mahogany : Pilot spokes White : Lettering Polished brass : Boiler bands. Red : Perhaps some trim Brooks 2-6-0, Baldwin 2-8-0, Cooke 2-6-0 and 2-8-0 Black : All except as below. Russia Iron : Boiler jacket Mahogany : Pilot spokes, cab (later black) Graphite : Brooks : smoke box, headlight bracket : Baldwin : smoke box : Cooke : none Gold : Lettering & trim, white after 1885, Aluminum after 1906 Polished brass : Handrails, boiler bands ; on Brooks, piping, Red (perhaps black) : Brooks & Baldwin : tender collar, domes, headlights and driver centers FREIGHT CARS 1) Freight Car Red with White letters & White fascia. Gondolas, Flat Cars & Boxcars except 900-999 2) Indian Red with White letters & White fascia, Boxcars 900-999 3) Red Oxide with White letters on Black letter boards Stock Cars 1200-1208 4) White with Black roof, hardware & underboby Tiffany Refrigerator cars 1050-1064 5) Straw Yellow sides & ends, Brown roof, Black hardware and underbody One of two schemes for Refrigerator cars 505-511, other scheme as in 1). CABOOSES 1) Straw Yellow with Black roof, trucks, underbody & lettering, Indian Red panels in end railings 2) Indian Red with White letters, Black underbody PASSENGER CARS Chocolate Brown including trucks & underframes, except Indian Red oval on side, White fascia on some cars, Gold lettering & trim DENVER & RIO GRANDE and RIO GRANDE SOUTHERN LOCOMOTIVES Black : All except as below. Russia Iron : Boiler jacket up to 1918, Black or Olive Green thereafter Varnished Wood :Cab until 1918, Black thereafter Gold : Lettering & trim until 1918, White or Aluminum thereafter Polished brass : Boiler bands, piping, Sand & Steam dome trim FREIGHT CARS 1) Princess Mineral Brown, White lettering, Black iron parts; later Boxcar Red. Gondolas, Flats & Boxcars CABOOSES 1) Indian Red to 1920, White lettering, handrails, steps 2) Boxcar Red after 1920, otherwise same as before WORK EQUIPMENT 1) Boxcar Red with White lettering before 1940 2) Reefer Gray with Black lettering after 1940, Black underbody 3) Black with White lettering, Ditcher OW PASSENGER CARS 1) D&RG Tuscan Red sides, dark (Black or Brown) roof, Gold lettering and trim before September 1918 2) Pullman Green sides, Black roof, Gold lettering 1918 on. 3) Rio Grande Gold (Yellow) sides, Black letterboard and stripe(s) under windows, Dulux Gold lettering and Aluminum roof on Silverton train after 1950 Ian Barnett ====================================================================== Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 03:16:39 EDT From: KyleWyatt Subject: Re: [HOn3]: Nevada State Railroad Museum In a message dated 4/3/98 3:23:10 AM, Mike wrote on the HOn3 list: >What color scheme was "Lake & Color"? This is mentioned on a bunch of >old Baldwin order sheets, 1870's to 1880's. Also, many engines appeared >to be painted olive green w/ aluminum of gold trim/letters. How much of >the engine was painted this way? Boiler, cab and tender? Any ideas? Lake is a deep tone color, sort of like maroon but with not quite so much purple. See the North Pacific Coast "Sonoma" (California State Railroad Museum) or the Eureka & Palisade "Eureka" (Dan Markoff) for samples of Lake. Lake was the Baldwin standard color from mid 1875 until around 1880 (there was a transition period from Lake to the dark olive (green) that followed. Before Lake, Baldwin standard was Wine. (Carson & Tahoe Flume & Lumber #s 1-2 "Glenbrook" and "Tahoe" were delivered in 1875 painted Wine; Eureka & Palisade #4 "Eureka", delivered a couple of months later in 1875 arrived in Lake.) "Color" refers to an imitation gold paint, rather similar in color to Dulux imitation gold in the 20th century. It was used when the customer didn't want to pay for gold lettering. In addition to lettering and striping in gold (or "color"), there was also striping in other colors: potentially including reds, blues, greens, yellows, white, etc. As noted above, olive (green) became the standard color around 1880, with some transition phase. Utah Northern Baldwin 2-6-0s delivered in 1879 were painted this color, and it continued to be used into the 1920s and later. Another deep tone color, if you are not expecting it and don't look closely (or in sunlight), it can easily be mistaken for black. Initially, lettering was in gold (or in "color"). Some time in the mid-late 1890s, I think, there was a transition to aluminum for lettering. What is unclear is whether the aluminum color is what you would have seen, or whether they used this as a base for an imitation of gold by covering the aluminum with an intentionally yellowed varnish. I know that the Southern Pacific and the Virginia & Truckee did this in the nineteen teens and twenties, but I'm not sure whether Baldwin ever did this. Certainly Baldwin delivered many locomotives in the teens and twenties with aluminum lettering visible as such. As to what would be painted what, the base color would be on the pilot, frame, headlight, drivers (with various decoration or base color variations possible), steam dome and sand box (although the wrapper on one or both of these was sometimes brass instead of painted iron), cab (if it wasn't varnished instead of painted) and tender. The boiler jacket would be Russia iron, or the less expensive American iron, both of which were a very deep gray color. Photographic evidence suggests that there may also have been a lighter colored metal used for jacketing in the early 1880s, but that is still being investigated. If you are modeling a Baldwin engine, obtain the Baldwin specification sheet from the DeGolyer Library at Southern Methodist University in Dallas, Texas. These will list the base color and the lettering color ("Lake and Gold", for instance). The spec sheet will also list a paint style, recorded in two style books in the Special collections at Stanford University. (35mm slide copies are at the California State Railroad Museum.) The style number keys to a table in the front of the first book, which then gives individual painted style samples for tender, cab, driver, cylinder and headlight. Finally, the spec sheet also has a finish number, such as "C-2". This gives details of finish for a whole list of components such as cylinder covers, dome wrappers, crosshead pumps, etc., listing whether they are painted, polished iron, or brass, etc. Copies of the finish sheets are in the collection of both Stanford and DeGolyer. You always need the first sheet in a letter group as well as the higher numbered sheet ("B-1" as well as "B-4"), since the first sheet lists all the finish details, while the later sheet only lists those that are different from the first sheet. Hope this helps. cheers -Kyle Wyatt ======================================================================== I live in Italy and I have never seen these cars "live", but as far as I know this pinkish red was used by C&S and not by D&RGW. Accuflex has a "C&S freight car red" that is probably what you are looking for but I'm not sure that it is on the market because it is part of a Sn3 kit made by Berlyn Locomotive Works for a C&S stock car and may be it has been made only for them. I have reproduced the same color using Tamiya Acrylics with the following formula : 10 drops X7 red 4 drops XF2 white 2 drops XF3 yellow 4 drops XF10 brown I hope this can help you Gianni Genta