Subject: Re: Carter numbering again On the NPC boxcar numbers, my best guess is; The first 30 boxcars, which were 24' cars built by the Carters in Saucalito would have been 2-60 (even numbers only.) They added 13 more boxcars between 1889 and 1893, presumably from the Carters, (the cash books for those years are full of large payments to the Carters) presumably 28' long. I would assume that these would have been numbered from 62 to 96 (again even numbers only.) The roster then stays stable until the used SPC equipment is added in 1906 and 1907. There are newspaper reports that some cars were ordered from Barney and Smith in the late 1870's, but State Railroad Commision Reports don't show an increase in boxcars in those years. As for siding... I think boxcars would only have had t&g siding... board and battern or t&g for passenger cars, and the siding on passenger cars was probably changed after about 20 years or the first serious accident, which ever came first. I have a suspicion that the two orders of B&S cars may have been slightly different Randy